Mark DeSaulnier actually said...

I am concerned by the proposals to take us backward.

So, all of those things, I just wanted to clear up, and thank you, Mr. LaMalfa, and the chairman, for letting me talk.

Just briefly, there are elected officials on CARB. There always has been. It is required by the California Clean Air Act.

you could have spent money on compliance, or you could have spent money on lobbyists and lawyers.