Karen Bass actually said...

I know that periodically there are exchanges with African leaders and the Chinese Communist Party.

it is to hold China and other are countries to abide by international agreements and have them accede to things like the OECD.

by building that capacity, by building capability, by building democratic institutions, that becomes the greatest deterrent toward those bad...

So let me give you an example that I heard, and maybe you can tell me if there is any legitimacy to it.