Karen Bass actually said...

it is to hold China and other are countries to abide by international agreements and have them accede to things like the OECD.

by building that capacity, by building capability, by building democratic institutions, that becomes the greatest deterrent toward those bad...

So let me give you an example that I heard, and maybe you can tell me if there is any legitimacy to it.

I also want to take this time to really express my deep personal sorrow to you, Mr. Chairman, and to the members on the loss of Donald Payne...