Karen Bass actually said...

"Yes. It is just that it seems like some of the time it doesn't turn out that way, right?"

"And then I am also interested in to what extent we fund Rwandans versus fund U.S. contractors to do work in Rwanda."

"Congresswoman Bass, as I said to Chairman Smith, I want to assure you that we believe VOA's broadcast in Kinyarwanda and Kirundi provide an enormous service."

"So tell me what that means. Give me an example."