Karen Bass actually said...

Yes. It is just that it seems like some of the time it doesn't turn out that way, right?

And then I am also interested in to what extent we fund Rwandans versus fund U.S. contractors to do work in Rwanda.

Congresswoman Bass, as I said to Chairman Smith, I want to assure you that we believe VOA's broadcast in Kinyarwanda and Kirundi provide an ...

What is Kagame's motivation? I mean I am assuming that you are saying he is going to run again for a third term.