03/24/2021
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"We need more comprehensive--not from you, but from us--energy policy."
"This hearing and the debate going on here is, I don't know, the 27th year, the 30th year of it."
"Most everything that occurs, there are winners and there are losers. And the task at hand is to find a way in which there are winners and winners."
"if we want to do something besides just yak back and forth across these various hearings we could focus on innovative solutions such as this one that you have just recommended."