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I think we`ve stressed the debate a little bit. I mean, they`re like, oh, look at over there. Hey, well, I`m not that, but now, people are lean -- I`m talking to other governors, and some of my friends, some are becoming closer friends saying, I wish I could do that.

09/27/2022

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