Eric Swalwell: “Absolute corruption, Lawrence. We see a president who's not interested in justice. He's interested in protecting himself…”

“Absolute corruption, Lawrence. We see a president who's not interested in justice. He's interested in protecting himself and recognizes first he has to protect others. It's not about justice at all. It's a criminal who's seeking to cover his tracks, and we've seen this with other pardons. It's a bribery presidency, a smash and grab out the door. He was impeached for bribery, and in the final days of his presidency, there's a bribery or pardons investigation taking place. You could have set your clock to this, though, Lawrence, because the president accuses others of exactly what he is always doing. But legally, pardoning himself or pardoning others for future crimes is legally unlawful, practically unenforceable, and morally unconscionable. And so, in Congress, I think what we have to do is become more imaginative about how to protect our democracy from future presidents doing this and as a country, as citizens, to look at amending the Constitution to prevent a president from ever pardoning themselves, a family member or proactively pardoning others for crimes to shield themselves in criminal investigations.”