09/22/2011
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"The purpose of sanctions is to force the regime to change its policy by creating regime-threatening sanctions, and China does not want this regime threatened."
"It would be nice to cling to denuclearization, but as I think you predict, I think as most of us would predict, if we keep doing what we have been doing, we are going to get a very similar result."
"Okay, keep in mind, unless the regime is truly threatened and close to falling, they are not going to give up their 10 to 15 weapons because they feel they need those to defend themselves from us."
"But now let's look at the policy. Is it good policy to designate North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism?"