10/26/2009
https://www.congress.gov...
"As I often say, no one has ever asked me, ... please weaken our clean water rules; I really don't want to have sure pure air or water. Baloney. They want it better."
"Well, Mr. Holleman, I just want to say you are the best witness that I have ever had on my side of an issue, for many reasons."
"There has to be Federal minimum standards."
"But after seeing the corruption in Flint, ... I am going to ask you to expand on that one more time."