Ann Kirkpatrick actually said...

Honestly, we can't believe anything on the data because so much of it looks manipulated, falsified, and is only half reporting the facts.

But this person's obviously not a very good manager or we wouldn't be fifth worst and yet we can't get rid of them.

We have to separate these and look at them differently if we're going to ever come with any practical solutions.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.