12/14/2011
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"I am just guessing because we have all these reports we love to get, and then we go onto the next crisis."
"Help me create some assurance here that you are in the process now or have some ability to ensure."
"I certainly support and believe that we need to keep the two intertwined, again, but I think it is flexibility that is the key here."
"That tension is always there, and it is a challenge, I think, to try to navigate that for any issue, including homeland security."