So let me just ask you about the transferability question. Why is it good for consumers to limit transferability?

This is because the Justice Department says that your company repeatedly conditioned and threatened to condition Live Nation's provision of live concerts on a venue's purchase of Ticketmaster's ticketing services.

It is not normal, is it, for antitrust consent decrees to get extended like this after violations are identified.

What it sounds like is a data industrial complex.

You are forcing everybody who just wants to get this ticket on the resale market who has not bought from you, Mr. Berchtold, to begin with.

Do you have any plans to restrict the resalability of digital tickets through third-party entities like StubHub or others?

So you could only--let me just be clear about the way this works. You could only resell it through the Ticketmaster ecosystem. Is that right?

It means that Ticketmaster-Live Nation is a monopolist whose conduct needs to be supervised.

Well, kind of extraordinary to have a consent decree running for such a long period of time and have you not even fight it in court.

So let me just ask you about the transferability question. Why is it good for consumers to limit transferability?

I just worry about the effect on consumers and prices.

This is because the Justice Department says that your company repeatedly conditioned and threatened to condition Live Nation's provision of live concerts on a venue's purchase of Ticketmaster's ticketing services.

How does the resale of the SafeTix, how does the resale with another entity, let us say StubHub just for illustrative purposes, how does that work?

It is not normal, is it, for antitrust consent decrees to get extended like this after violations are identified.

This is how monopolies work.

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