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Right. So, recruiting based off of race and ethnicity alone is not sufficient for empowered boards.

But you also get into this really--more of the behavioral piece, which is, you have a diverse board on paper, but they are not functionally diverse, right?

Progress does not mean we have arrived. Progress does not mean we have completed the job.

Women and minorities only hold approximately 38 percent of board positions at America's top 100 companies.

Research shows that when you have a more diverse array of inputs, you actually get better outcomes.

Pursuing more diverse boards is the right thing to do as a matter of economic interest for these institutions.

The best practices--listen, you've had just an unbelievably terrible track record that we've got to fix.

Because one of the things that we talked about in my opening remarks is about making sure that this problem doesn't happen again.

Yet, the Administration is again threatening to circumvent Congressional intent, this time to roll back categorical eligibility and to take food assistance away from children, families, veterans, disabled, and older Americans.

In December, the President signed into law a bipartisan farm bill which many of us here helped to negotiate in good faith.

I want to say thank you for having a sobering response and not pretending like everything is fixed.

I came into this hearing so angry and so upset that our veterans had not been served.

And so how can we do that? Can you get to this committee some recommendations on how we can make sure that this D.C. debacle does not continue to happen here, but also, that it doesn't happen in Arizona or California or Minnesota or…

But even on the report card--I mean, I guess at what point do we start holding people accountable?

Wouldn't you agree with that? I mean, you know, if the surveys would have stopped the poor healthcare results--and maybe I use healthcare more broadly, but the problems that we had at your facility where you are, if we had just the survey…

The problem is each little thing that you do wrong now will be judged based on the bad track record.

Here's the thing, is you get more of what you reinforce.

Thank you for your leadership on this particular issue.