Pete Domenici: “Five and 5? We have 12, and the Senator from California has 5. I will take it: 5 and 5; is that all right?”

That did not reduce any beneficiaries' benefits, it just cut the amounts that providers were otherwise getting.

He has been fair in almost everything he's done.

I think you raise a good point. We have to be careful about the issue you raised. It is a serious one.

That is clearly a part of it, no question.