Pete Domenici: “It went to conference for him, and it came back as a conferred-upon bill. So we are kind of used to looking at what you…”

I think you raise a good point. We have to be careful about the issue you raised. It is a serious one.

It is clear from this example that good things can happen when we open up more areas for drilling in a responsible manner.

That is clearly a part of it, no question.

That did not reduce any beneficiaries' benefits, it just cut the amounts that providers were otherwise getting.