Kevin Roberts: “There are six Federal agencies in the meta database that are involved in it. When I kept inquiring, when the…”

“There are six Federal agencies in the meta database that are involved in it. When I kept inquiring, when the distinguished chairman of the Finance Committee, Senator Baucus, asked the representative from the Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services--CMS, referred to in the health provider community as ``It's a Mess''--and said, Who is the navigator? This is before we understood that it was pretty much all community organizers. There are three basic organizations in Kansas, 1.5 million, and so they are out there knocking on doors. The problem is we don't know what people are signing up for, or they don't know and I don't know, and we have made all sorts of inquiries. Finally I got the 16 pages that you have to fill out to be eligible to sign up and the 61 pages that you had to fill out then to be a member of the exchange. That got a lot of news. So they reduced the number by simply reducing the font size from about 16-point or 12-point down to 8-point. They said, Just read more carefully. I got to page 3. I would not put down the information they wanted to know. There have been stories about scammers who are looking at these regulations or these signup sheets--no matter how big they are--saying, Aha, if they have to give their Social Security number, I can call them and say it is the law and you are going to have a lot of fraud and abuse. Maybe the IRS can take a look at that. One other thing about the IRS.…”