Micheál Martin: “To me, it’s always been the revenge of Big Tobacco.”

What we're witnessing is growth in expenditure.

The rate of growth is declining. But to use words like ‘brutal’ is completely over the top, if you don't mind me saying so, and a gross exaggeration.

I genuinely believe that dialogue is the way. I've always believed in dialog, and I think dialogue is the way to resolve this situation.

I've made my position clear in terms of where I think there can be derogations, and there doesn't need to be a picket.