James Lawless: “This year, I accept it was only €10 million to €25 million, but there is a big difference from €25 to €250.”

Come in with a blank sheet of paper and let's engage.

It's not the be-all and end-all that it once was ... there are many, many more pathways.

I will be putting together a paper to say what is the current core funding deficit, because we had a figure in 2022.

It's ten times the previous figure.