Joe Manchin: “Has this figure gone up or down since last year?”

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…