Joe Manchin: “We need to do permitting reform in America, we're not going to meet the challenges and be energy-independent.”

We don't even have a budget anymore.

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.