Joe Manchin: “My final question is going to be since 1998, the VA's budget has quadrupled from $42.38 billion to $188.65 billion.”

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.

We’re not trying to start another party.