Joe Manchin: “I cannot understand why you went to CO2 emissions by 2030 but did not address any particulates and SOX and NOX.”

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

The pledge is simply this: that you remain independent and not be part of the Democrat or Republican system.

We’re not trying to start another party.