Joe Manchin: “If you do that, the revenue-producing measures would be taxes and drugs, the spending is going to be climate.”

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

We’re not trying to start another party.

The pledge is simply this: that you remain independent and not be part of the Democrat or Republican system.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.