Joe Manchin: “Sounds to me like we're picking winners and losers.”

We’re not trying to start another party.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.

We don't even have a budget anymore.

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…