Joe Manchin: “If you don't have the infrastructure Lifeline is maybe nice in theory but meaningless in practice.”

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.