Joe Manchin: “I will vote for the debt ceiling. But I would vote with the understanding that at least we can have a conversation with…”

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.