Joe Manchin: “Local governments depend on these programs to function, and we need to have these programs now and give certainty to our…”

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…

We’re not trying to start another party.

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.