Joe Manchin: “If it's all about the election, the next election, you know, that's the worst thing that could happen to us.”

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.

We’re not trying to start another party.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.