Joe Manchin actually said...

Let me just say this, that you know that with the financial challenges we are having right now, and we have our problems, too.

I'd like to go into it in more depth with you, because I think in these budgetary-constrained times that we have, we should be looking at tr...

To reduce the costs, just to lower the costs so we're able to provide to more people in need.

Basically, with rising costs, especially of Medicaid or Medicare Part D costs, they're estimated to rise about 9.7 percent.