Joe Manchin actually said...

The only thing that bothers me more than anything is that--how much fraud, abuse, and waste that goes on in the whole system.

If in anybody's budget, if we see a spike in reimbursements--requests for reimbursements, that should alarm that something's wrong.

That's an alarming rate.

A lot of the States have basically their own controls, their oversights, their ombudsmens, things of this sort.