Joe Manchin: “I think upwards more of in the high 20s, low 30s, that could be in serious problems. We are concerned. We are very much…”

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.

The pledge is simply this: that you remain independent and not be part of the Democrat or Republican system.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.