Joe Manchin: “I think upwards more of in the high 20s, low 30s, that could be in serious problems. We are concerned. We are very much…”

We need to do permitting reform in America, we're not going to meet the challenges and be energy-independent.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

I will make a decision in January -- at the end of this year.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.