Joe Manchin: “But we find it very difficult to continue on because of the EPA's intervention and their very onerous position that…”

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We’re not trying to start another party.

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.