Joe Manchin: “I am saying over a 10-year period. I have heard anywhere from $400 billion to maybe $800 billion over 10 years.”

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We don't even have a budget anymore.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…