Joe Manchin: “They called themselves kayaktivists and they held up signs saying support Build Back Better, don’t sink our bill…”

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We don't even have a budget anymore.