Joe Manchin: “I will vote for the debt ceiling. But I would vote with the understanding that at least we can have a conversation with…”

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.