Joe Manchin: “I guess, Suzanne, what I'm asking, do you see a lack?”

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We don't even have a budget anymore.