Joe Manchin: “But we don't, do we?”

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…

We’re trying to build a true independent network.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.