Joe Manchin: “It is amazingly difficult to figure out what that number is. It is very frustrating.”

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

I will make a decision in January -- at the end of this year.

We don't even have a budget anymore.