Joe Manchin: “The way the bills that we all passed in a bipartisan way, and even the IRA (Inflation Reduction Act) bill, the way it's…”

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…

The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We’re not trying to start another party.