Joe Manchin actually said...

With all that being said, you know, we have concern over our food supply, our energy supply.

I think, to both of you all, is that--I mean, if you're looking at us as a--everybody says lack of money, it's always a money situation, to ...

This is not a time to do that.

Are we changing the quality of products that we are using or the composition of the products such as ceramics?