Joe Manchin: “Joe Manchin echoing -- Steven said that could be 80 votes for this. Could be 90 votes for this.”

The pledge is simply this: that you remain independent and not be part of the Democrat or Republican system.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.