Joe Manchin actually said...

We have to be engaged, because we are antithetical. Most of ISIL's ideology is antithetical to our values.

But, you said that they're a sovereign nation, so we don't like the outcome, but they have a process.

It makes no sense to me, and I can't sell it. I've tried, you can't sell this stuff. No one believes the outcome will be any different.

That can be changing. That can change continuously.