What I would have done differently and my recommendations to counsel would have been, why don't you go ahead and pardon Donald Trump for all his charges and make it, you know, it had been it had gone down a lot, a lot more balanced, if you will.
Senator Joe Manchin suggests that President Biden should pardon Donald Trump to create a more balanced situation regarding pardons.
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My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.
The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.
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