Joe Manchin: “He will not have my vote on 3.5 and Chuck knows that.”

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

The pledge is simply this: that you remain independent and not be part of the Democrat or Republican system.