Joe Manchin: “The Stream Protection Rule is first and foremost about water quality.”

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.