Joe Manchin: “If we have people in the Department of the Interior such as Deb, maybe there will be a balance.”

The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.

We’re not trying to start another party.

We’re trying to build a true independent network.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.