Joe Manchin: “We need to find more American energy and use less.”

We’re not trying to start another party.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We’re trying to build a true independent network.