Joe Manchin: “I think we run the risk of doing what Donald Rumsfeld asked during the Iraq War which is creating new terrorists faster…”

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

We don't even have a budget anymore.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.