Joe Manchin: “It looks like there's no way of backing out of that thing right now, until he's gone.”

The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.